On 08/14/2012 09:32 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
Am 14.08.2012 15:08, schrieb Baho Utot:
Wow, this sounds so much like a conspiracy theory. The fact is that the
people who write the code inevitably dictate which software is
maintained,
based on their interests and convictions, and they're pretty much
unanimous
that systemd is a better solution to the problem of booting and
maintaining
daemons than the solution we currently have.
So yeah, I guess that's been the game plan all along: make booting and
daemon
control more consistent, faster, and easier for most users to maintain.
Paul
I don't understand your point....
What is so wrong with the booting using sysvinit?
I really don't need what systemd offers and sysvinit does everything I
need and has not failed me.
And you don't want systemd because you are sure it won't do what
sysvinit can, even though you didn't try it.
Dude I have 5 fedora systems from 15 to 17 and they use the full
systemd, Hence my dis-stain for it.
So is your point that I need to move to systemd because the developers
tell me I must?
You need to move because the rest of the Linux ecosystem will require
systemd at some point, just like it now requires udev. If you don't like
it, then stop annoying us and start maintaining code that makes sure
YOUR way will keep working.
It's like that: Whoever contributes code makes the decisions.
Why I am creating my own distro from scratch
As for systemd being better solution for the problem of booting the
beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I just don't see it, so why
take away sysvint?
I could repeat what I said above.
You can use systemd and I should be able to use what works for me and
not be forced down the systemd path.
So, you are annoying the whole mailing list because you don't like that
you _might_ be forced to switch to a superior booting scheme which is
unlikely to affect you negatively in any way.
It has not been established that systemd is superior. You take facts not
in evidence
Arch's policy on systemd vs. initscripts has not even been discussed
among Arch developers yet, and nothing has been decided. Yet, you guys
are acting like someone's going to eat your childrn.
I can't stand this anymore. I want to just add replaces=('initscripts')
to the systemd package just to make this fucking "discussion" stop. If
you don't have anything _technical_ to discuss, and don't have any
problem that you want help solving, then move this bullshit somewhere I
don't have to see it.
I wonder if there is a way to lock a thread in mailman.
Go ahead, take your bad attitude and change it.
BTW learn how to use filters in your email program.
