May be this is a silly question but: will there be a general announcement when systemd became officially adopted? As T. G. said in the Dev list: "If a move should happen, I suggest waiting a bit longer until more unit files have been added to our various packages. And to allow some more time to see if problems crop up." I'm as a final user would like to make the leap ony after systemd is already adopted as the new AL official init manager. Kind regards, Martin -- -msx