On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:45:28PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > "Never change a winning team" as long as your alternative for sure does > improve the computer usage for everybody. I assume you wanted to say "unless" instead of "as long as". First off, "everybody" is not Arch Linux' target demography. No distribution targets 'everybody', and that'd be close to impossible to achieve, anyway. Please just accept that Arch Linux, as one distribution among literally hundreds, targets "experienced linux users". Don't take this as an official definition, but it's a good rule of thumb to work with that renders most points you're making moot. Teachers or students, are not "experienced linux users", usually. There are distributions much better suited for these people's needs, which would be proper subjects to your argumentation, but not Arch Linux. They don't care how their system boots, but we Arch users do. That's why we've got these threads clogging the MLs right now. Arch Linux is not specifically designed to "win over" the desktop users, or the grandmas of the nation. There's not even a goal to win over *anybody* in the first place! We're not running a business here, but offer a service for a specific niche. Take it or leave it, voice your opinion, help develop a better solution for that niche. Pretty please, with sugar and cherry on top, lose the arguments "it's too complicated for X" with X!="experience linux users" and "status quo works for me". Those are simply not largely relevant when debating the inclusion of another, optional(!) init system. Laters, Denni -- "Den Rechtsstaat macht aus, dass Unschuldige wieder frei kommen." Dr. Wolfgang Schäuble, Bundesinnenminister (14.10.08, TAZ-Interview) 0D21BE6C - F3DC D064 BB88 5162 56BE 730F 5471 3881 0D21 BE6C