Welcome ;) On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:22:43 -0400 (EDT) brainworker@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hello, folks > > Due to recent changes in arch linux, I have some qustion about new process > of installation and configuration of arch linux. > > I am really not computer geek, so I apologize if I express anything > incorrectly. > > First. About absence of core images. When I just read about it, I thought > why they did it. But then I realize that arch is rolling release system > after all. This fact means periodical and quite frequent updates, which > are impossible without Internet connection. So if you would like to > install Linux on computer without Internet, choose OS with fixed release > cycle - all the system packages (as well as applications) will be on that > distribution. So I am glad that now there is one universal iso-image > instead of six. > > Second. About absence of AIF. I really sorry about it. As I said I am not > so geeky to install everything with closed eyes. AIF helped me a lot. It > gives me tips what to do next and how to do it. Now, when burned CD > finished loading, I just see prompt to enter commands and nothing else. > But I just do not know what to do next. So if I do not have installation > guide previously printed on paper, I just become consused what to do next. > So, I really hope that to the moment when next iso snapshot will be > released, AIF will be fixed and included in that release. > > But for the present I would like at least to have installation guide > included in installation iso (with a note where this guide resides) in > order to switch to it during installation. > > Third. About systemd. As I understand from installation guide on Wiki all > the configuration now is made not in rc.conf but in several config files. > I do not know yet whether it is good or bad. But in Wiki I can read the > following: > > 1) instead of NETWORKING section I should specify hostname in > /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. Why should I duplicate information? The > danger of need to duplicate information is that it have to be > synchronized. Currently, with core/initscripts (not systemd) you need only /etc/hosts. > > 2) instead of LOCALIZATION section I should specify locale in > /etc/locale.conf and /etc/locale.gen. Again why should I duplicate > information? > > 3) instead of LOCALIZATION section I should specify timezone in > /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime. And again the same question. Why? > > Besides, where should I specify my network connection settings? In what > systemd-specific file? As I understand in ... rc.conf. And what about > daemons? Where to specify them? Again in rc.conf? It depends on your network setup (wifi, static IP, etc.) and desktop environment. In my experience netcfg+wpa_actiond is the most robust option. But beware that you'll need admin priviledges to manage networks at runtime. If that's OK, create a profile in /etc/network.d (there are example templates) and add net-auto-wire{d,less} into DAEMONS in rc.conf. Otherwise, you may want networkmanager or wicd to better integrate into GNOME/KDE, for example. Also, if I were you, I would start with the usual sysvinit/initscripts, and upgrade to systemd when things are working properly. > > And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of configuration > files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? > > I hope you can make it clear, guys. > > -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
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