Hi folks . Well having finally got the Glibc thing sorted and done a "pacman -Syu" which pulled in kernel ect when i try to start Kaffeine it takes almost 2 mins to finally show up , When started from an xterm i get the following errors QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory vo_vdpau: Can't create vdp device : No vdpau implementation. [pete@7-of-9 ~]$ net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed mode net_buf_ctrl: prebuffering... net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100% @ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 99.5% @ audio 480 ms 4 buffers net_buf_ctrl: dvbspeed 100% @ audio 2040 ms 16 buffers Running the nouveau driver Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 16 21:35:54 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux