First of all, sorry for this "all-in-one" answer, I do have to set options :| [...] >I think you want to use ArchBoot, the oldest oficial setup. I do have an archboot iso on an usb key. [...] >Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + >lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, then I >guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and get it >into shape again. If I had the technical background, I would have done it :D >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >I think this is a good thing (once we have proper documentation). It >forces users to understand how their system is set up, and how to fix >it in case of problems. Unlike with other distributions (e.g. Ubuntu), >I think this is a necessity when using Arch, and making this clear >from the beginning should hopefully save both us and users from lots >of grief. I do agree. But those kind of breakage are not that current. Using archlinux since end of 2008 it is the first hard upgrade I faced for a long time. And of course, it will help users showing them if archlinux is a distro for them or not. [...] > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib >to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most people who are >uncomfortable partitioning their disk manually (or unwilling to learn) >will not grow to enjoy Arch as a distribution. I do agree. Having a wrapper around these scripts could an answer in a way. And many many problems for /lib are related to 3rd party packages. [...] >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >> >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >> >Archboot: >https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot >https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541 My favourite ISO :) >It uses a working installer for quite everything. I do agree, even if grub2 install is kinda busted. I reported a bug related to this issue => https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30565 >For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use, Full systemd ? Yummy :D >I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first. >greetings >tpowa Thanks for the info, Tobias ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies@xxxxxxxxx