On Jul 16, 2012 1:02 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:20:10PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > On Jul 16, 2012 12:17 PM, "Fons Adriaensen" <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 04:42:28AM +0100, Dave Morgan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The most likely reason for /bin/login being missing is that the upgrade > > > > was forced. > > > > > > No, it was not. As already said I followed the instructions > > > which clearly stated not to use --force. > > > > I have no idea how this happened, but reinstalling util-linux should fix it. > > I completely new netinstall fixed it :-). > > Maybe the system was just too old, it was the only one not kept > up to date. > > Since the latest core install image (about 11 months ago), there > have been several changes that required a manual intervention > during a routine update, the /lib thing is just the latest one. > Each of them was clearly announced and documented, and usually > involved upgrading some packages separately either before the > rest, or after it using --ignore first, and at least in one > case using --force was the recommended way to go. Each of these > upgrades worked well separately and were no big deal for anyone > using Arch for some time. > > But imagine the situation of a new user who has just done a core > install, and is told to do -Syu after the first reboot, facing > all these manual steps together. I don't think you can expect > such a new user to do the right thing, if it is possible at all. > Which is not a good thing for Archlinux' name and fame. I suspect > we need new install images ASAP. I agree. We are currently in the final stages of testing a new iso. I'm also advocating we drop the core instal as it is causing too many problems in case it is outdated. > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. > It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) >
