I agree with you, guys. Although I come from China. On Jul 1, 2012 11:24 PM, "BlissSam" <m13253@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello, > > I am a Simplified Chinese user with 2 years of arch experience > (of course I am not joining the community), > but I agree with your opinion. > I don't want ArchLinux to repeat the way that Red Hat used to go (Red Hat > used to call Taiwan 'Taiwan, province of China', and many people refused to > use it --according to Wikipedia). > I think that just simply calling it 'Taiwan' is okay. We don't care what > the government is saying (especially, P.R. China government may be angry, > but who cares?). What we want to do is to provide convenience to the user, > is it? > > So I agree with you and I really hope the community to change its name > back to Taiwan (as I know, the name is used to be 'Taiwan' in the past > years) > > The fact is we don't want to talk a lot about political issues, but > changing its name to Taiwan is a good idea. > > > Sam > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: itszero@xxxxxxxxx > > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 23:08:07 +0800 > > To: arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [arch-general] Country Name (ISO-3116) Issues > > > > Hello, > > > > First of all, I am sorry to bring political issues to here. I have > > been using ArchLinux for years, deployed on many servers, though I'm > > not joining the community until now. The recent changes to the > > ArchLinux webpages (ex. Downloads, Mirror Status) is really offending > > Taiwanese people. I would like to bring up this issue, and preferably > > to resolve this issue. > > > > I have posted this message on the forum: > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144315 . The moderator > > suggested me to post on arch-general, so here it is. :) > > There is also a bug tracking issue submitted by other Taiwanese user > > that I'm requesting for reopen here: > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30444 > > > > The following text is the same as the post on forum, except a few > > modification to make text smoother. > > > > The recent changes on the download page named Taiwan as Taiwan, > > Province of China, which is not reflecting the truth that Taiwan is a > > independent country which having its own government. I think this > > might be caused by following the ISO-3166 country name list standard. > > However, I don't think ISO-3166 is a good list when it comes to the > > country name. > > > > Many open source communities have encountered this problem before. > > Most of them understand that ISO-3166 is not really a neutral list > > that we all hope for, and thus made switch to a separate maintained > > country list. For example, FreeBSD[1], Rails[2], Debian[3]. Many big > > commercial entities also opt not to use "Taiwan, PRC" in their country > > list, like: Apple[4], IBM[5], also try Google, Facebook, Twitter, et > > cetra. A possible solution might be using the country name list from > > ICU[6]. > > > > I believed the ArchLinux is trying to expand its user-base around the > > world, so a neutral country name list would be the best for the > > benefit of all of us, ArchLinux developers and users. As a Taiwanese > > ArchLinux user, I'm really happy to see that user base of ArchLinux is > > growing in Taiwan. Some educational institutions provide mirrors site > > in Taiwan, Wiki localized in Traditional Chinese in the recent years. > > I sincerely hope this issue can be resolved as soon as possible. Let's > > keep the issue simple and not flaming it, thanks. > > > > References: > > > > [1] FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138672 > > [2] Rails: > http://www.koziarski.net/archives/2008/9/24/countries-and-controversies/ > > [3] Debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/04/msg00798.html > > [4] Apple: http://www.apple.com/choose-your-country/ > > [5] IBM: http://www.ibm.com/planetwide/select/selector.html > > [6] ICU: > http://source.icu-project.org/repos/icu/icu/trunk/source/data/region/en.txt > > > > Best Regards, > > Chien-An "Zero" Cho >
