On 29 May 2012 19:24, Myra Nelson <myra.nelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The latest move of udev to systemd-tools brings up one question for > me. When do I need to stop updating my machines so I don't have to > switch to systemd? I don't take care of servers or a massive number of > systems, just two machines. I have them configured properly and > working well using the testing repos and currently don't seem to have > any obvious problems. I took a look at systemd and it seems a bit much > for my needs; two static wired ip addresses, no laptops, no mobile > devices, and one printer. Somewhat old fashion and very simple, one of > the reasons I started using Arch Linux to begin with. > > I don't mean to be derogatory or flippant in any way, and I'm not > trying to start a massive thread on the pros and cons of either init > system. I appreciate all the work the dev's and tu's have put in to > making the system as wonderful and stable as it is. I simply don't > believe I need/want systemd. > > Myra > -- > Life's fun when your sick and psychotic! As said recently in arch-dev-public mailing list [ 0 ]: - systemd-tools is meant to be a package that everyone can benefit from (regardless of PID 1) - everyone will eventually have systemd-tools installed anyways, as initscripts will be using it Also, udev code has been merged upstream in systemd's code. That doesn't mean you have to run systemd as PID 1. [ 0 ] https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-May/022980.html