On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I do in fact get exit code 3 when running the ExecStart line by hand, >>> and removing -w seems to take care of it. -w seems to wait for link >>> detection, but it seems anything it returns (in the above case I got 3 >>> because I'm currently on wireless and have no LAN to test it on) would >>> cause an error? The rc.d script doesn't seem to use -w, so I'm >>> wondering why that was inserted for the service file. >> >> We'd like to consider the network.target to be up only once we have >> connected to the network (so that other services can rely on this). >> >> I only fixed this up as it was buggy when I found it, but it might be >> that this behavior is not desired at all (I don't use this stuff). How >> would you expect this to work? > > I was under the impression that the net-auto-wire{d,less} services > would not guarantee that network WOULD be up, they're just monitors > that bring network up IF there's a connection. So, for example, if I > start net-auto-wired.service now when I'm on-the-go, 'active' would > indicate that its currently monitoring for a LAN connection (ie - > ifplugd is started), not that there IS a connection ready. > > I'm not very familiar with systemd myself, but it seems to (the > uneducated) me that if network.target should only be up when there's a > usable connection, then net-auto-* should not provide/before/whatever > network.target. How does (for example) networkmanager work? From a > quick grep, it seems to have two service files, though since I don't > use it I can't pretend to understand how they're used. The bottom of this page:- http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Control-Centre-The-systemd-Linux-init-system-1565543.html?page=3 seems to indicate that network.target should only be up once a fully configured interface is available.