On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > About modules and bloat - for systemd you're going from a few hundred > lines of shell to a few hundred thousand lines of mandatory > dependencies. I have no idea where you get these numbers from, or why they should matter. > but at the cost of a rather hostile > upstream I do not have this impression at all. systemd devs certainly have been very open to all the suggestions I have made to make it work better on Arch. > that likes writing code more than anything and goes in a > direction that makes some of us very much not happy, especially as it > now corrupts other unrelated projects like udev (oh, systemd-udevd) and > syslog-ng (haha, you get journald now!) and so on This does not make sense. udev still works the same on systemd-less systems and syslog-ng works just fine with (or without) systemd. I am very happy that you are trying to educate us about OpenRC, but if you are going to attack systemd please get your facts straight and refrain from spreading unsubstantiated FUD. -t