On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:40:51 +0000 Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:46:20PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > > There has been a lot of changes lately, this is true. However, a lot > > of effort has been put into reaching consensus between the distros and > > the relevant upstream projects. Much more so now than before. > > > > It is my impression that a majority of the ideas have originated in > > Debian and Fedora, but I don't really care who came up with what idea > > as long as we end up with the best ideas in the end (and possibly more > > importantly, that we all end up with the same ideas). As far as I can > > tell the different changes are receiving a lot of scrutiny within the > > different distros before being adopted (as one would expect); and > > overall we are all moving in the same direction. > > One consequence of all these changes is dependency creep. Just one > example: emacs depends (via gconf) on consolekit. I've been using > emacs for > 15 years or so, and I've never seen it depend on PAM or > Kerberos, SSH authentication subsystems, etc. It has no reason to > depend on consolekit. And if it does by transitivity that should > make its maintainers think twice. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/NEWS.23.2 Care to file a bug? > > Allowing such a dependeny to exist is *bad engineering*. If this > trend continues it will end with everything depending on everything. > Which means there is no more choice. I know it's not and Arch thing, > but still this is cause for concern. > > Ciao, > -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
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