On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 13:14 -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote: > Please please please not again!!! > > PA is a great consumer thing, and that's exactly what we need. Because noone > cares about "pro" audio solutions which are a nightmare to configure. > > PA goes far beyond you KDE/gnome to embedded systems with android and webos. > Having different volume controls for different ergimes is very handy there. The discussion would stop once and for all, if there would simply be a dummy package available by the repositories of all the distros who make PA a dependency. Neither the OP nor I have started this discussion on several other lists, where it was a thread some days ago. All the time there are averaged non-pro-audio users having trouble with PA. And now I shut up, Ralf