On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 14:34 +0000, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > This is a Unix issue and not even a Linux issue though Linux tends to be > worse than other Unices. OpenBSD tries to minimise these dependencies > as more code equals more bugs but they do get constant headaches from > upstream. It's better than having ancient libraries like on windows > around though. There is one distro aiming to I think statically build > everything but I don't think it will do a great deal at the moment. > > One of the main reasons I have chosen to use arch is because you don't > have to go around switching crap off after each upgrade or after > install only to find they moved the init for the umpteenth time without > documenting it and making it more difficult as if they are pissed off > that you want to turn off the avahi-daemon crap etc.. > > I run xfce with gnome-alsamixer and alsa as neither xfces mixer nor > pulse audio are compatible with the grsecurity kernel patch with all > security protections enabled, but I didn't try gnome3 because it works > on less hardware and I have to disable 3d support on some machines, > due to the gaping security hole that graphics cards require and now > web browsers have access to. > > The arch alsa page is quite helpful and I imagine gnome will run just > fine with alsa even if the gnome developers have decided as I have seen > blogged that no-one has any reason not to use pulseaudio. > > Kc IIRC on Debian I had GNOME 3.0.x installed and this worked when I simply replaced the pulseaudio package and a second package with an empty dummy. For the "regular" and for the "fallback" mode. Of cause I used ALSA or jackd with ALSA backend and I preferred to switch to Xfce. IIRC for Debian pulseaudio was installed when there was the upgrade from GNOME2 to GNOME3. - Ralf