On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 18:46, Myra Nelson <myra.nelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 17:39, Ionut Biru <ibiru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 12/18/2011 07:04 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> >>> I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd >> >>> libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this >> would be >> >>> handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer >> not >> >> to >> >>> bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change. >> >>> >> >> >> >> now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for >> >> forcing updates when dependencies are not met! >> >> >> >> Stop using -f. >> >>> Thanks for your assistance. >> >>> >> >>> Myra >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Ionuț >> >> >> > Thats's why I didn't use -f and have quit using -f, why I don't think it >> > will solve every problem, why I ask for the proper procedure before I >> > borked my box, and why I asked about it being taken care of by an >> install >> > file. Lately I've seen several "user intervention needed" news postings >> and >> > assumed this might be one of those cases. I intentionally pointed out >> the >> > wrong way to do this, sorry if I offended you. >> > >> > Myra >> > >> >> No offense taken and I hope that my reply wasn't offensive. >> >> I was only curios since I see a lot of our users using -f along with -Su >> and with -Sdd lately and maybe our manual is not clear enough. >> >> As for original problem, nothing in our repository depended on that >> package and there wasn't any way to have it installed. But my logic >> seems to be faulty. >> >> -- >> Ionuț >> >> No offense taken, I just tend to shoot first and ask questions later. > Your logic is not necessarily faulty. Mine may be an edge case from me > destroying my pacman database and having to rebuild it about one year ago. > I'm still finding extra packages that I don't need installed, remains of > previously installed packges that don't show up with pacq, and if I run > pacman -Qdt and used the output to uninstall orphan packages I'm not sure > anything would work. I really need to do a complete reinstall but I've got > my box setup the way I like and laziness is also a factor. > > The only time I've used -Rdd is when I was using nvida packages from the > AUR and had to remove everything to fix my screwup. I think to many people > take the easiest way out when trying to fix something and -f solves the > immediate problem. It took me awhile when I moved to Arch from crunchbang > to get used to the power available with Arch and how to use it properly. > The proper use is the key. > > Clarifying the manual might help. If you don't mind I'll take a look at > the man page and see if I can make the necessary changes. I also wonder > about adding a message similar to the one that comes up when you try to run > pacman without su or sudo [ error: you cannot perform this operation unless > you are root. ] like [ warning: this option should only be used in extreme > cases and/or if you know what you're doing ]. > > Thanks for your assistance. > > Myra > > -- > Life's fun when your sick and psychotic! > Or possibly an admonition to read the recently updated wiki pages that in-duh-viduals ( I'm guility ) don't do regularly. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
