Hi, i was wondering if anyone using xdm gets /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup loaded when you log in? man page sais "After the user logs in, xdm runs the Xstartup script as root.", so between Xsetup and Xsession. but my /var/log/xdm.log only has: ... xdm info (pid 803): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 xdm info (pid 803): sourcing /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole xdm info (pid 820): executing session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession ... i also added `echo "wtf" > /tmp/wtf` to /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup, just to be sure (before the exec sessreg...) and /tmp/wtf doesnt get created. cheers .andre