Re: coping with damaging updates

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On 10/27/2011 02:34 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote:
On 10/27/11 at 12:25pm, Leonid Isaev wrote:

Wheel has to done manually, of course. What *kit does, in a nutshell, is just
elevate priviledges of local users over remote, so you can have control over
devices attached to your machine.

Should this be added to the Beginners' Guide at the wiki? I'm thinking of
something ecumenical along the lines of "do it the usergroup way, or you may
consider adding yourself to users and wheel and allow *kit to take care of the
rest by launching your wm under a *kit-session.

im not sure it's that cut-n-dry, or even a 1-to-1 relation. CK (which IIRC will be obsoleted altogether eventually by systemd facilities) offers finer grained access control than coarse FS groups can offer. i don't know a tremendous amount about CK, but i believe it works alongside polkit, which many applications now look to for authorization ... in a nutshell, apps may not *care* about FS perms because it is expected you are running an auth agent.

the fact is people/users expect better/cleaner ... and actually *MORE* flexible ... ways to delegate both access and administration duties. this is what the "*kits" try to achieve, with dbus playing mediator.

it's not all that different from pam_* modules -- sure, we could all be using /etc/passwd forever and a day, and many still are, but many contexts/installtions demand more ...

OT example:

https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HOWTO_Configure
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SSSD

... depends polkit. i'd like to get that/freeipa2 up on arch. im afraid(?) the *kits are here to stay, desktop or server.

--
C Anthony Risinger


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