On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 08.09.2011 18:01, schrieb Tom Gundersen: >> I think my preferred approach would be to provide some more >> helperfunctions in /etc/rc.d/functions which do the most common >> operations of the ones you outlined above. Just by glancing over your >> ssh-patch I got the impression that we would be better off supporting >> fewer options than start-stop-daemon does, to encourage unified/simple >> rc scripts. Take --start as an example, we should probably have a >> function that looks something like "start($pidfile,$executable,$args)" > > Agreed. > >> . How we implement these functions would be an internal detail of >> initscripts (we could either include start-stop-daemon.c or we could >> implement them in bash if it is simple enough). > > Clemens has a point here: Debian already sorted out all the kinks and > quirks of this topic, and implemented the solution in > start-stop-daemon.c. Instead of slowly converging towards their result > (remaining buggy on the way), we would benefit from their work if our > new helpers in rc.d/functions would simply call start-stop-daemon. Sure, I'd be happy with including start-stop-daemon in initscripts. I don't want to just copy the C file though (like we did with minlog), but pull the sources from whatever upstream is. And I think it makes sense to keep it internal and not expose it to rc scripts as is (just so we still have some control on what goes into our rc scripts), unless someone can successfully argue that it is all awesome. -t