În data de Ma, 05-07-2011 la 02:41 -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi a scris: > Wow... finally I have a valid point... Very thanks... I will try it ASAP > and whoe the users > what they think about.... I just can't understand why everyone forgets there is still a way to use metacity and gnome-panel and even if they were to be deprecated upstream, which isn't the case yet, they could be simply replaced by anything else. The real problem with gnome3 is just this: the window manager and the panel. Get over it and work around the upstream decision in a smart way. Using a different window manager is the best thing to do for those of us that can't or won't use gnome-shell and is not that hard. It can be done either in normal or fallback mode, keeping metacity and gnome-panel or not, even if that was intended as a "solution" for those systems that don't have 3D acceleration. It won't work *exactly* as gnome2, so what? You can get the sources and make it work as you want. Your users don't know how to do it? Fine, do it yourself for them, or hire someone to do it. Things will change anyway. We all understand that the things around us and the things we use everyday change, and we are proud of being able to adapt, wheter in real life or our fictitious lifes, and yet everyone fails at the easiest thing in software world: editing a few config files. I might even consider writing a how to, especially if someone would apreciate my work, but untill then I will just say that with a few edited config files and the proper packages installed anyone can get a gnome2 like behaviour in gnome3. I now am using Compiz with Emerald and AWN, but I've also tried, as in configured untill everything was just like in gnome2, Sawfish and Openbox with fbpanel. With other window managers it might not be that easy to mimic the behaviour, but it's still doable. Note that on my system I don't have ane of these: gnome-applets, gnome-panel, gnome-shell, metacity nor mutter. As a strong argument for how nice and easy it can be done, have a look at this picture http://ompldr.org/vOWQxOA and here's one with the good old gnome2 that inspired me http://ompldr.org/vOWQxYQ (too bad it was made on Debian just a few days before I decided to switch to Parabola). Don't get fooled by the looks, it's just a Mist like theme, and is not yet finished. The way it works is more important. The fact that I have 3D support, is just a bonus. Things can be done to work the same even without it. -- <>< Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici