On Friday 10 June 2011 14:03:32 Yaro Kasear wrote: > On Friday, June 10, 2011 04:26:21 Robert Howard wrote: > > Why not just copy the old kernel image, modules and initrd image > > somewhere by hand before you upgrade kernels. If we try to make this > > automated it isn't going to be kiss. I used to do this way back in the > > day by including the entire kernel version in the pkgver and giving the > > images longer names. It was possible to have concurrently installed > > kernels. Check out how some of the AUR kernels manage to be the same > > kernel version as the official without causing issues. > > +1 on this. If you really need the old kernel, why not make sure you back > up the old one and its image before upgrading instead of inconveniencing > other users and the developers for a feature only a minority even wants? Because it's painful to go through that every time a new kernel update comes along. Also, I think you're underestimating the interest in this. This list will typically contain the most advanced Arch users, who are confident rescuing their system from a bad kernel upgrade. I'm sure there are plenty of Arch users out there that aren't reading this list, but for whom this feature could save them a lot of time and effort. Just because most of *us* can probably fix this in our sleep, doesn't mean it's right for Arch users in general. Also, I wonder what happens if power is lost whilst pacman is installing a new kernel? I haven't tried this, but it wouldn't surprise me if the system ended up with a truncated kernel that wouldn't boot. That's a bug right there, although it's a pretty tiny corner case, granted :) Paul