Re: [arch-dev-public] removing load-modules.sh from udev

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On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Thanks for your Oon-ee.
>>>
>>> Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> rc.conf - MODULES(!mod1, !mod2): blacklisting modules in the modules
>>>>> array will no longer have any effect. modprobe already provides two
>>>>> different ways of preventing modules from being loaded, so this is
>>>>> just a matter of updating some configuration files. To blacklist
>>>>> modules, add a new .conf file to /etc/modprobe.d/ with the contents
>>>>>
>>>>> blacklist mod1
>>>>> blacklist mod2
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> This seems a regression of current rc.conf behaviour (in essence,
>>>> moves another configuration back to upstream default which was
>>>> previously in rc.conf). Is there any good reason to keep current
>>>> behaviour (perhaps an Arch-specific udev rule which parses MODULES for
>>>> blacklisting?)
>>>
>>> I have not found any uses of the MODULES array like you describe (if
>>> they exist they should be considered bugs though, the MODULES array
>>> was not meant to be used in this way). However, if anyone knows of
>>> any, then please let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>
>> Glad to oblige, here's my current MODULES:-
>> MODULES=(!phc-intel acpi_cpufreq vboxdrv vboxnetflt loop fuse
>> !net-pf-10 !snd_pcsp uinput !pcspkr coretemp)
>>
>> When I was testing out undervolting I used the phc-intel blacklist to
>> prevent it loading (otherwise it would automatically load even if not
>> listed). Don't use it anymore, but its a use-case. The blacklists of
>> the other three I got from the old old Beginner's Guide when I first
>> set up (couple of years back) but at least snd_pcsp and pcspkr are
>> still recommended to be blacklisted here
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_PC_Speaker_Beep
>>
>> The purpose is simply to disable those annoying speaker beeps. Since
>> computers normally come with sound cards nowadays, why would we want
>> to hear polyphonic beeps which even our handphones and microwave ovens
>> don't use anymore =).
>>
>> As I said, when the change happens I'd personally just write the
>> custom udev rules and forget about them, no big deal.
>>
>
> Ah, and I just remembered net-pf-10 was to disable IPv6 (I think). But
> in that case, the wiki has been updated with the new methods of doing
> so.
>

This usecase of disabling features you don't need is exactly what
"blacklist" is for, so it should work as expected to create a file in
/etc/modprobe.d:

blacklist pcspkr
blacklist phc_intel

Note that some of the blacklisting you are doing might be obsolete by
the next udev release:

I will remove some old arch-specific rules so that pcspkr will become
opt-in rather than opt-out in many (all?) cases.

snd_pcsp is not included in the standard arch kernel (AFAICT), I don't
know its history though, so don't know what happened to it.

Cheers,

Tom


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