Hi Tom, thanks for the info. My computer is i686, so i cannot test the package. If you post later the i686 version I will be glad to test it. Hector On 17 May 2011 14:47, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Hector, > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara <hseara@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> After the last kernel update (I guess) I cannot boot my system if a >> external usb disk is present in /etc/fstab. I use default fstab mount >> options for the disks and they have each a single 1GB ext4 partition. >> Note that the disk mount okay when mounted from the command line after >> booting. Two identical disks has been tested with the same result so >> is not a hardware problem. The disks tested are two Western digital >> 1TB Essential Edition 2.0 (Model: wd10000h1u). >> >> In fact this problem was happening very seldom before (1 every 100 >> reboots) due to to the waking up time of the devices but now it is >> every boot (only once worked). My question is: Has any thing changed >> regarding the usb at boot time lately in the kernel? In fact, I have >> notice a considerable speed up in the booting sequence up to the point >> where the file system checking is done. Maybe the changes to speed up >> the booting process have something to do with the problem I'm having? >> >> In my case it looks like nothing is been asked to my external drives >> when checking the filesystems at boot. Just after, the system fails >> claiming that it has not found the disks. In the past (two days ago), >> some activity in ligths and spining up sound was present when the >> system was checking the filesystems, but now everything is quiet. >> >> It is anybody else having the same problem? >> >> In the meanwhile, as I do not use this disk for booting I have add the >> nofail option to the fstab for the two disks. Now obviously everything >> works but the drives are not mounted. Does anybody know the best place >> to add the mount commands for the drives so they are always accessible >> for the users after boot? > > There is currently a problem with the latest udev in that it does not > settle properly (i.e., it does not wait for dirvers to be loaded > before continuing). This most noticeable affects people using usb > drives or kernels without devtmpfs. > > Please try: <http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~teg/udev-168-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz> > to see if the problem is solved for you, and report back at > <https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24288>. (assuming you are on x86_64, > I'll do i686 tonight). > > That said, there is a fundamental problem with usb drives, so we > cannot reliably mount them at boot (it probably will work in practice > though). The problem is that there is no way to know when all usb > devices have been enumerated (even if the drivers are loaded), so we > don't know how long to wait before trying to mount them. > > This is the kind of problems solved by systemd (in community), and it > is out of scope for the standard sysvinit initscripts (unless there is > a solution that I am not aware of). > > Cheers, > > Tom > -- Hector Martínez-Seara Monné mail: hseara@xxxxxxxxx Tel: +34656271145 Tel: +358442709253