Tom Gundersen wrote: > > The specific bug you pointed out is not particular to KDM/GDM/slim, > but should be fixed for all daemons (proper inheritance of LOCALE), > and it is on our TODO list. Indeed, but i didnt point to this report to prove that the rc.d way doesnt work. Its a 10 month old bug report, which means theres been 9-10 upgrades to KDE. The KDE maintainer didnt fix the problem all this time. Both responces to it have been by Arch developers one of which said the rc.d way sucks and inittab is the proper way and the other who said inittab is the only way and thats what the user should be using. To me that means the rc.d way, even if on most occasions may work, it is unsupported. Additionally its more error prone, while the inittab method always works, and always works reliably. Greg -- () against html e-mail | usenet & email communication netiquette /\ www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html