Am Thu, 7 Apr 2011 21:53:58 +0200 schrieb Marek Otahal <markotahal@xxxxxxxxx>: > Sorry to sound rude, but Heiko, it's you who is pushing fcron so > unhealthily heavily. I wouldn't have no opinion on the two crons but > after reading the discussion I'd stick to cronie. Just my 2c. Well, on the one hand yes, on the other hand no. But let's try to get objective again. dcron: Known to be buggy. fcron: Known to work reliably since years, works for 24/7 servers as well as for home desktop computers, features are known and well documented on upstream's website. cronie: Quite new, not known well, if at all, and at least I can't find neither a feature list nor a documentation on upstream's website. Doesn't seem to work for home desktop computers, at least not as easy as fcron (separate crontab and anacrontab), from what I read in this thread and from the very few descriptions on upstream's website. A feature comparison between all the cron daemons, at least between fcron and cronie would be nice. That are my concerns. Again, it's just a question about the default cron daemon, not the one and only in the repos. I wouldn't care, btw., if cronie would go into the repos, too, even if it has only 3 votes in AUR, yet. On the other hand this issue could be solved in a different way without any further discussions. There's a need for installing one cron daemon, but no need for a default cron daemon. It's pretty the same issue as with the bootloaders. There's no default bootloader anymore and currently it doesn't make sense anymore to define one bootloader as the default, because they all have different features and it depends on the system configuration which bootloader is the best. In the development isos AIF asks the user to choose one of currently two bootloaders (grub and syslinux), more (grub2 and lilo) could or should be added. And this bootloader is automatically chosen by AIF in the package selection. The same could be made for the cron daemons. Put every cron daemon into [core] and let the user choose his preferred cron daemon during installation. But if this shouldn't be done, and if there shall be a default cron daemon it must be a daemon which fulfills every use case and not only the needs of servers which are running 24/7. Heiko