On 03/03/2011 01:29 PM, Desmond Cox wrote: > More appropriate locations for this discussion would be the template > talk page itself: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Article_summary_start&action=edit&redlink=1 Thank you Desmond. I added it there and then applied it to the pkgbuild page for evaluation. There wasn't a 1:1 correlation for the padding or margin rendering in the archwiki, but it was close. You can take a look at the border concept applied to the https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pkgbuild page. Let me know what the thoughts are. If there in interest in it, then we could add it as something like Template:Article heading startbox which would preserve the original and provide a choice for which border (or no border) any author might like. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.