On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 22:56 +0100, Marek Otahal wrote: > On Thursday 10 of February 2011 17:59:26 Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:52:16 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 17:24 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > >> we did had vi being a stripped vim package in the past. We got rid of > > >> it > > >> because upstream vim started to not helping arch users because "it > > >> was > > >> broken". That impression was given by our users who didn't understand > > >> that python and other crap that vim support is in vim package and not > > >> in vi. > > >> > > >> now the same situation is now. Some users don't understand that vi is > > >> nvi and what they want is in vim. > > > > > > I don't think we should go back to a fucked vim package with /etc/virc > > > like we had it in the past. We switched from that to nvi, which fucked > > > up files if they contained unicode stuff (it would just segfault in the > > > middle of a save operation, leaving you with a broken file). > > > After that, we decided to go for busybox, which works fairly well as vi, > > > is maintained, but doesn't do anything that looks like vim. > > > > > > IMHO vi is totally useless on most systems. I prefer to uninstall it and > > > do ln -s vim /usr/bin/vi instead. Users who complain about vi being too > > > limited should do that too. > > > > I wonder the same. I cannot imagine why anybody would want to use vi. > > Personally I would not mind if nano was the only interactive editor in > > [core]. But keeping the current busybox vi is also fine. > Hello, > first, I apologize for off-topic, but i seek help on vim. > Reading this thread I decided I want to learn how to get more from vim, so I > started with vimtutor. > So far I ran into two issues that were incompatible with the vimtutor, > *) 7G moves you to line 7, I had to do 7gg instead > *) " > Lesson 5.3: SELECTING TEXT TO WRITE > > > ** To save part of the file, type v motion :w FILENAME ** > > 1. Move the cursor to this line. > > 2. Press v and move the cursor to the fifth item below. Notice that the > text is highlighted. > > 3. Press the : character. At the bottom of the screen :'<,'> will > appear. > > 4. Type w TEST , where TEST is a filename that does not exist yet. Verify > that you see :'<,'>w TEST before you press <ENTER>. > > 5. Vim will write the selected lines to the file TEST. Use :!dir or !ls > to see it. Do not remove it yet! We will use it in the next lesson. > "...this doesn't work for me, I switch to visual mode, after : the '<,'> > doesn't appear though. > > Can somebody enlighten me, is this behavior > -some config in vim -- where and how can I set it? > -mistakes in the tutorial (could be updated) > -mistakes in vim > > Many thanks, mark the vimmer :) > This is not the place for vim help, please consult #vim on irc and google -- Jelle van der Waa
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