Excerpts from christos.kotsaris's message of 2010-11-29 08:05:40 +0100: > On a more serious mode now: > > As the devs themselves said, pulseaudio is optional, unless you are using > GNOME, which requires Pulseaudio upstream. There is nothing clearer than that. > Go blame GNOME developers. > > There is something i noticed. Morgan Gandwere is a Debian convert... That > explains a lot of things actually. > > Debian is known to modify every possible package, since Debian maintainers are > more wise and of course they know better than upstream developers about > upstream software. > > Debian is known to fork a package when some upstream developer does not accept > a debian maintainer's POS patch. Then the package is left to rott and die, > since the debian maintainer is not able to develop it. > > Debian users are used to this mentality. That explains why someone with this > background believes that a distribution should modify upstream to fit its > maintainers whims. > > Sometimes there have been packages i wanted that didn't make part of Arch, > even though in my opinion they should. For example, libxft-lcd was in > community, while lib32-libxft-lcd was not. I asked in the forum to include > that too, but instead, libxft-lcd went to AUR also. I didn't bitch about it, i > just use AUR and that's it. One can't expect a whole distribution to > accomondate his personal needs. > > So pulseaudio haters, since pulseaudio is optional, the only reason you > complain is that you don't want it in extra, you don't want to install > libpulse since you cant afford 1MB disk space, and you also don't want media > packages compiled with pulse support because of a purely theoritical bloat. > > Well, you can't expect the distro to remain behind the times and not include > proper (optional) pulse support for these reasons. If 1 mb of disk space and > tiny bits of memory bloat in executables is such a waste for you, you could > recompile those packages, or even better, try Gentoo. I hear Gentoo is really > fast and without bloat. After 60 hours of compiling your apps start 5ns > faster. Great! I guess I am one of those pulse-haters. I don't care whether it's in [extra], some other official repo or not since I simply don't need it. But now mplayer pulls in libpulse, and I have no idea which consequences this could have. I don't see why I need to have libs for a soundserver that I have no use for floating around on my machine. It is at best unnecessary and does nothing, at worst.. I don't know. I hope I don't need to install GNOME to turn it off or something.. (gconf and stuff).
