Am Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:41:01 -0600 schrieb Dan McGee <dpmcgee@xxxxxxxxx>: > Five step plan to success: > 1) Actually contribute instead of whining on a mailing list Is saying one's opinion whining? How long since? And, yes, I am already contributing in AUR, I've already written a split PKGBUILD for libreoffice-i18n which Andreas hopefully will add to [extra] soon. And I've already written a cryptsetup related patch for rc.sysinit which I sent to Thomas. So I don't think that I'm not contributing. > 2) Get your name known in the TU/dev circles I already met some devs and a TU personally. And I don't think that they had the impression that I'm whining. Instead we had some nice conversations. > 3) Apply for a position where you can contribute more As soon as it's possible. > 4) Have your opinion actually count because we know you do work > instead of act as a roadblock Some people know that I'm already working if possible. > 5) Become jaded like the rest of us, realizing that users always think > the world is ending, and when they say "this is shame", "I'm leaving", > "you suck", "developers are selfish", none of the developers have ever > really cared and would rather poisonous people leave anyway. I never said "I'm leaving" or something like that. That some developers are selfish is indeed my impression. Read: Some. By far not every developer. Heiko