On 10/14/2010 01:40 AM, diederick wrote: >> On 10/09/2010 12:57 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: >>> Guys, just updated and got a slew of warning dumped back to konsole: > >> Nothing strange to me at all: you're upgrading qt while you're in KDE >> (which uses qt). It's never a good idea to upgrade a package while it's >> being used. If you're upgrading a daemon, shut down the daemon first; >> if you're upgrading qt, exit KDE first; if you're upgrading the kernel, >> udev, etc., drop to single user mode first. Just to add a little food for thought to the issue. In my original post, the host being updated is 'nirvana' which is my primary home server. All updates are done via ssh from another laptop. What occurred was -- kde4.5.2 was evidently left running on the server. What makes the kio and kbuildsycoca output remarkable at all is that this is the first time since Apr. '09 with Arch in the 50-100 updates I've done, and the first time since 1999 with Mandrake and then SuSE that I have ever had any spurious kio or kbuildsycoca output during an update (pacman -Syu, YaST, zypper, rpmdrake, etc.) regardless of which desktop was running. I have updated Qt from withing kde/kde4 many times, so it was a real curiosity to me. I may have just been lucky all these times. I'll add DR's advise to my list of 'oops - can't do that with kde4' -- tips. I'm sure the issue isn't a pacman or Arch issue, the issue is most likely that kde4 still has the debug flag set in everything so it writes everything to stderr on any change, update, rebuild whatever where stable desktops just write errors to stderr. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com