On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06.10.2010 19:39, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Tom <uebershark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> I'm seconding this. r300g is working exceptionally well compared to >>>> r300 and it is very stable even with lots of 3D stuff and wine games. >>>> I'd definitely want this to be the default in Arch. Perhaps we should >>>> file a bug report. In fact, I will file one if we can get a few more >>>> opinions on this. >>>> >>>> I think it would be a very beneficial idea for Arch users. >>>> >>>> -- Sven-Hendrik >>> Well is there any reason this should NOT be made default once Arch >>> updates to Mesa 7.9 if it IS the default in new mesa?? >>> Why would/should arch differ? >> i wouldn't think so. >> >>> Sidenote: been running r300g for ages, no worries... >> that's great news, along with other positive feedback. this whole >> message is rather devoid of new content, but it's really wonderful to >> see Gallium reaching fruition; it's been a long wait and it seems to >> really be living up to it's promises. >> >> haven't tried the Gallium driver for my 4850 (if one is ready-ish?), >> but this thread is very encouraging. especially interesting is the >> recent port of the Direct3D API to a native state tracker (i think >> that's the right terms)... Linux gaming may just force it's way into >> existence, vs. the perpetual wait for vendor support :-) >> >> C Anthony >> > Careful, r600g (for your mighty fine 4850) does not currently do what > you think. In fact, upstream currently and openly discourages its usage > for anything but shy testing. It might eat your babies if used for > production. luckily he's almost a toddler and can probably fight it off :-) well that sucks; i'll just keep waiting i suppose, thanks. > Double careful with the hopes for D3D used in Linux gaming. It is > effectively useless for Wine since their current implementation > integrates better with the other needs of a Windows game (Windows API != > Direct3D). Even if a perfect, full-blown D3D 13 implementation went into > Mesa, you couldn't run a single Windows game because of that. D3D on > Linux is primarily meant for close-to-metal 3D virtualization (which in > return would enable you gaming, though, but in a VM). Wine isn't going > to switch to Mesa's implementation anytime soon. i dont want to stray too off-topic; i know there is much more to a game than D3D, but in the brief research i did, it seemed much closer than you've hinted. the guy even threw up a patch for wine to use the tracker shortly after IIRC. all in all, wine was still required of course; i didn't see any indication of a VM/etc. but i see how it could be used for that as well. will have to look into it further i suppose; i just know several people who do not bother with Linux for this exact reason, so it appeared a solid move. C Anthony
