On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 15:01 -0300, Ángel Velásquez wrote: > David, > > I will try to have some courtesy to you this time. > > I usually read the mailing list, I don't reply it at all (just when I > need to say my opinion) but, trust me, I read at least 70% of the > mails of the list... From that 70% that I've read, I see, that you ask > _anything_ on the list, so I don't think that you really did a minor > research, or your research techniques are wrong, or you pretend that > we are here to reply you 24/7. > > Maybe in this little case, the question that you did, is not detailed > on the wiki as you expected, but then let me ask you a question, did > you updated the wiki when you didn't found the information and then > you got a reply from the list? .. I think no. So don't complain about > the lack of the information on the wiki. > > Wanna an advice? try to don't ask _anything_ and waste the time of the > people who usually reply you. Instead, try to research a little more, > and then, after hours (yes hours) of researching, *ask*, and > eventually the number of questions that you do on this list will > decrease and probably you get better replies than a classic RTFM. I > don't consider myself as a very-smart-guy-so-i-dont-ask .. but I try > to don't ask a lot. > > It's just my opinion, btw. Good luck. Similar opinion here. While you (David) are obviously not dumb, the sheer number of emails and tone of them seem to indicate a certain lack of prior searching. Or perhaps a lack of creativity in searching. In any case, the impression your question gives is of this sort of process:- 1. Think about something. 2. Realize you're not sure how to do it. 3. Email an initial question to the list. 4. While waiting, try a few things on your own. 5. If not answered, add more comments in a reply to your own message. Preferably, step 3 should be removed and 'do google/wiki/forum/ML search' added to step 4. This would decrease your message ratio AND increase the usefulness of your messages (hence the usefulness of the ML archive).