On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 07:30:45PM +0200, Kurt J. Bosch wrote: > 2010-09-01 13:03, Dave Reisner: > > > >The _current_ behavior doesn't define an order unless its in DAEMONS. > >I've reverted _your_ behavior, which I don't feel has proper > >justification. > > > I referred to extras/initscripts which indeed does. Please read the > code: http://projects.archlinux.org/initscripts.git/tree/rc.shutdown?id=2010.07-1 > Indeed, I was mistaken. However, I still stand by the idea that trying to parse the output of /bin/ls is flawed from the ground up. ls is made for human parsing, not programatical parsing. > >Suppose I start daemons foo, bar and baz (in that order) after Arch > >boots. Why then, should the shutdown order of these daemons change > >merely because I had to restart bar, which is independent of foo and > >baz? > > > Because you know which is the right order and rc.shutdown just rolls > back what you did. ^^ > > No, rc.shutdown does _not_ know the right order. The current behavior is broken. Example: 1) start network 2) start rpcbind 3) start nfs-common 4) restart network network now shuts down first, rendering the OS unable to cleanly close any outstanding nfs shares. This commonly results in a long hang at shutdown and the possibility of truncated files. d