On a newly-set-up "promiscuous USB" system, I've chosen to skip a DE, and ultimately also forewent a login manager. Normally, I'd be happy with an askpass client, but I've noticed that I cannot do without nm-applet on this installation, and consequently have ended up with gnome-keyring installed alongside as well. So I thought, hey, I could make use of that thing, like I make use of kwallet with ksshaskpass on a KDE system. Unfortunately, after some headache-inducing trial-and-errors, it occurs to me as if this is fat hope. The technical background is as follows: 1) Openbox WM only + pcmanfm for desktop management 2) X is autostarted on bootup via su/inittab 3) nm-applet autoconnects to my desired WiFi without any kind of prompting (though it did ask for a password to set up a new key the first time) 4) gnome-keyring does not appear to be running post-startup (so we can assume nm-applet calls it on demand only) I do know that at least one similar issue with regards to having a login manager, "realtime", is worked around by having the following in /etc/pam.d/su: session required pam_limits.so So I tried something akin to that with the gnome_keyring.so stuff, to no avail. Any chance? You tell me. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD