At Dienstag, 3. August 2010 06:39 Tavian Barnes wrote: > Because of KISS? Pacman is a package manager, not a system administration tool. This has nothing to do with package manager or not because dpkg or rpm can do this without a problem. > Imagine the story with a different daemon: SSH. You ssh into your > box, su, and pacman -Syu. Halfway through the upgrade, openssh gets > updated, which automatically restarts the server, which SIGHUPs > pacman, which is left in an inconsistent state. I have never had problems with a ssh session if i update ssh on my opensuse server and the specfile has this inside: %postun %restart_on_update sshd %{insserv_cleanup} It is okay if you say KISS is the goal but inside of a *.install file you could do the same as in a specfile of a rpm package and no one would call rpm a "system administration tool".-) And before one of the arch devs could misunderstood my lines: I can live perfectly that we the users do this by ourselves instead that the packaging comsumes more and more time. See you, Attila