On 25 July 2010 18:45, Ionuț Bîru <ibiru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 07/25/2010 07:37 PM, Guillaume ALAUX wrote: > >> On 25 July 2010 18:17, Ionuț Bîru<ibiru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 07/25/2010 07:14 PM, Peter Lewis wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Sunday 25 Jul 2010 at 16:50 Guillaume ALAUX wrote: >>>> >>>> I also have some suggestions for these packages: >>>>> - rename them from {jre,jdk} to {java6-sun-jre,java6-sun-jdk} or so >>>>> would >>>>> enable us to use different versions of SUN's JVM (Java5, 6 and 7) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well the open jdk package is called "openjdk6". It would be nice if all >>>> the >>>> similar packages had similar names, to make it obvious that they were >>>> alternatives. >>>> >>>> So if you want to rename them, how about either calling them sunjdk6 and >>>> sunjre6 or else renaming the open ones too to fit into the same scheme, >>>> e.g. >>>> java6-open-jdk? Although this has the down side that it no longer >>>> contains >>>> the >>>> phrase "openjdk" which is probably what some/most people search for. >>>> >>>> Just a thought. >>>> >>>> Pete. >>>> >>>> >>> i always hatted the debian naming scheme for java so -1 from me. but i'm >>> not against to use upstream name. >>> >>> -- >>> Ionuț >>> >>> >> Well there are several reasons in this renaming proposal : >> >> 1) to add some more info about the package >> 2) to make the difference between versions of Java. ie if we include the >> "6" >> in names we could have (in a shorter scheme) jdk6 and jre6, jdk5 and jre5, >> jdk7 and jre7. Because nowadays, upgrading jre from 6 to 7 would >> un-install >> jre v6. As you all know these different versions of JVM (5 and 6 and >> tomorrow 7) are both used a lot ! >> > > well, when this happens be sure that we will do that. add a new jre6 and > jdk package when version 7 is released > > >> i always hatted the debian naming scheme for java so -1 from me. but i'm >>> >> not against to use upstream name >> What about splitting the PKGBUILD? >> > > +1 > > > >> So if you want to rename them, how about either calling them sunjdk6 and >>> >> sunjre6 or else renaming the open ones too to fit into the same scheme, >> e.g. >> java6-open-jdk >> I do agree. >> > > the description of jre/jdk are pretty damn straight an if you really search > for java sun it would find jre/jdk > > pacman -Ss java sun > > -- > Ionuț > > well, when this happens be sure that we will do that. add a new jre6 and jdk package when version 7 is released I see your point: jdk beeing the "current" version and jdk5 or jdk7 alternatives like Peter said. What about paths? Today jdk/jre install in /opt/java, openjdk6 installs in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk. Wouldn't it be cleaner if we installed jdk/jre files in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-{jdk,jre} or something?