Re: kernel26-2.6.34.1 - won't boot - stuck at "Setting up UTF-8 mode" or craters with kernel NULL pointer

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On 07/13/10 10:26, David C. Rankin wrote:
Can anyone think of the possible mechanism that would cause a kernel to
boot once after rebuilding the initramfs, but then be corrupt for every
boot thereafter??

Do you rebuild the initramfs on 2.6.32?

Do you let the machine sit for a minute, shut-down, between each boot?

Yes, I can think of a mechanism. I'll tell it by example: My machine has a built-in webcam that the OS has to upload firmware to on every boot. Sometimes when I boot it ends up in a screwed-up state somehow (so the webcam doesn't work), and sometimes rebooting doesn't help: shutting down and waiting a few minutes sometimes helps: booting into MacOSX then shutting down also can change things a bit, often for the better (after all this hardware and OSX were made for each other). I believe it has some sort of volatile memory that decays randomly and slowly when not powered (like RAM does). I guess that when it boots with its memory containing partly corrupted firmware, it causes some kind of trouble depending on the exact state of the memory that interferes with just fixing it by uploading new firmware.

That's an example of how something could possibly persist across reboots. Maybe if you build on 2.6.32, the actual effect is that you were just booted into a good kernel that initialized some piece of hardware into some reasonable state, and this state is likely to persist across a reboot, but 2.6.34 screws up the state such that the next boot of 2.6.34 doesn't like it but 2.6.32 is a good enough kernel to nevertheless re-initialize it properly. (It could be non-volatile memory too, and the randomness could be part of linux boot process being nondeterministic as it is)

Or...maybe the explanation is entirely different.

-Isaac


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