On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 09:26:51PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > On 18/05/10 21:21, Matthew Monaco wrote: > >On 05/18/2010 03:34 AM, Jan de Groot wrote: > >>On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 03:17 -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > >>>Hi. > >>>I've recently seen threads on this list pertaining to interesting > >>>issues with the Arch Linux core isos. > >>>I haven't had that problem in my primary tests of those Isos in > >>>particular. > >>>Is there any reason why a successful installation may occur in one > >>>environment over another? Or is this a common Linux problem. > >>>Thanks for answering my question. > >>>I hope that the rest of you folks have successful Core installations, > >>>however a net-install is the only real way to isntall Arch Linux. > >>>I do not see the point of the core installer media, personally. Why > >>>would one wish to use that? A snapshot will become outdated in a > >>>flash, and all of you archers know this. As soon as a newer package > >>>version is available the entire snapshot is outdated instantly. Or > >>>will be, given a few weeks/months/years/whatever. > >>>I therefore have always installed from what I believe to be the > >>>Arch-Way, wich is installing via the Internet alone to have an > >>>updated system. > >>>Does anyone agree/disagree with my idea on the proper way to install > >>>Arch? :D > >>>Regards, --Keith > >> > >>My prefered way of installing any linux distribution is using bootstrap > >>tools. For Debian this is debootstrap, for Archlinux this is pacman -r. > >>The point of having an installer with packages on the ISO is that you > >>don't always have the possibility to do a network installation. > >> > >> > > > >What about the install scripts then? pacman -r (and -b) don't > >necessarily assure that the install scripts behave properly. > > > > Really... they should do. They do? from pacman.log: " [2010-04-29 23:15] warning: /mnt/root/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf installed as /mnt/root/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf.pacnew │ [2010-04-29 23:15] upgraded openssl (0.9.8l-1 -> 1.0.0-2) │ [2010-04-29 23:15] Clearing symlinks in /etc/ssl/certs...done. │ [2010-04-29 23:15] Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... 141 added, 0 removed; done. │ [2010-04-29 23:15] Running hooks in /etc/ca-certificates/update.d....done. │ [2010-04-29 23:15] upgraded ca-certificates (20090814-2 -> 20090814-3) " Though "-r" was set to "/mnt/root" the install script seems to update /etc/ssl/certs. I am not really sure if it actually applied to the new root "/mnt/root" or only to /etc/ssl. It was some time ago. I remember I reran "/usr/sbin/update-ca-certificates --fresh" when I booted into the new system. --