Hey just want to jump in here and say that I don't think it's a problem in communication. We like Linux and especially Arch because it lets us do what we want, and with power comes responsibility. That responsibility means that one should do a kernel of research before asking for help. In this case it took me less than a second to Google for 'arch vim gvim' and see that the first item on the list was the news announce about the updated packages. You can't have power without responsibility; I need the flexibility of Arch to maintain a small cluster that combines security, centralized administration, as well as the cutting edge software necessary for a testbed, so I am willing to put some time into my system administration. I'm not saying that everyone needs to invest that much time into maintaining their systems, but if you can't be bothered to enter three keywords into Google you really shouldn't be using Arch. Kaiting. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Matěj Týč <matej.tyc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 11:57 +0200, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: > > I think the question "Err... Why is gvim now conflicting with vim?" > > reveals a problem of communication. Let me explain: > > > > The news/announce "Vim/GVim 7.2.411 Update" has been published the > > 2010-04-18 (when vim/gvim landed in [testing] ?). So it's over 19 days > > now. That's the problem. Even on the website you have to scroll down > > quite a bit to finaly see that news. > > ... > > One idea would be that announces for [testing] could be done on a > > separate channel/mailing-list ? and that announces for > > core/extra/community are made in arch-announce and on the website at the > > time packages landed in core/extra/community (1 or 2 days before)? > > > > What do you think ? > > > > Guys, he is right. > > Sometimes it happens that you encounter an issue that has been covered > in news when you install Arch and then you run pacman -Syu months after > the news entry was published. > > This is a problem, at least to some extent and it should be looked at > it, maybe someone can come up with a brilliant idea... > > But it is not the first time this has been discussed, it comes every > time when an important news is released. > What's wrong with that pacmatic functionality that shomehow tries to > solve this, since it is not implemented in pacman? > > > -- Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/
