Geez. I guess it's just hard for people like David and myself, in my case a loyal Arch user for the better part of a decade, to understand the how-dare-you post a question asshole attitude that seems to have built up in the mailing lists over the past few years. On May 7, 2010 12:29 PM, "Xavier Chantry" <chantry.xavier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Guys, > >... Maybe try irc next time, at least people won't debate for hours whether you should have searched first or not. They will just tell you to read the f* news, possibly with a link :)