On 21/04/10 09:28, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:26:33 -0500
"David C. Rankin"<drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It still amazes me how people will take the position that all
associated with Gnome must be 'crap'. No don't get me wrong, I have
no arguments with your basic complaint that unnecessary dependencies
need not be included with the gstreamer packages. In fact, I agree.
However, that notwithstanding, the general premise asserted
in the comment "GNOME crap" is just flat wrong. Now I was a KDE guy,
did a lot of beta work with KDE4 and also enjoy enlightenment, the
'boxtops', windowmaker and recently Gnome. From first-hand
experience, I can tell you gnome is not crap. It is a solid desktop
built on the metacity wm that does a great many things right and a
handful of things I would do differently if I wrote desktops and
wm's, but on balance is an excellent desktop.
Not to mention, it is just down right gorgeous:
(152k)
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/img/ss/gnome/BlueNightII.scaled.jpg
Oh well, at least the gstreamer packages stripped of
unnecessary dependencies will be a great addition to AUR. Thank you
for that. But no need to deride a desktop just because whoever
packaged it last included a few unneeded dependencies :p
Yes it was an unfortunate choice of words. I don't think GNOME is crap,
I'm just not enamoured with the direction it seems to be headed in,
i.e. GNOME Shell. I can do without shiny stuff like that. Previous to
my switching to XFCE I was a GNOME user for a very long time. I reckon
GNOME 3.0 will be just as much of a PR nightmare as KDE4 was and
continues to be.
It frustrates me that core technologies can depend on a long
list of dependencies for another desktop environment. Try installing
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good if you're not running GNOME and you'll see
what I mean.
Ananda
Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your proposed
PKGBUILD?
I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome).
Ofcourse that is based on the assumption that the pacma dependencies are
correct(e.g good-plugins depends on x,y,z but only x is listed because
it also depends only y and z).
