On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:22:28 -0700, Rob Bean <papabean@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Has anyone else stripped HAL completely out of their Arch install? Thats exactly why heresy was started. ( http://hereticlinux.org/ ) Its archlinux minus hal/dbus/rapekit. Search the list for "Whats wrong with dbus anyway" under the thread "xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server" Also gnomies please read that thread before responding to this messages again. It has all been said, and settled.