when the files like core.db.tar.gz are downloaded they aren't preserved right? is there any way to configure pacman to preserve them? my problem is that I've switched to using wget and that now these are always downloaded... out of date or not. I imagine it's because wget doesn't actually have a file to check because they aren't preserved. I use wget because I throttle the download, I can easily fill my ADSL. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com