It would appear that on Mar 21, bardo did say: > If you don't want anything on your desktop (including files you put in > ~/Desktop) just launch xfdesktop-settings, open the "Icons" tab and > under "Icon type" select "None". There you have it, and you can even > restore sane permissions on ~/Desktop ;-) Thank you "bardo"! Trouble is I just tried that and I still get icons for any files in ~/Desktop. I was glad to hear the concept (I was using my E17 desktop where it seems my un-"sane" permissions for ~/Desktop may have been interfering with the rendering of it's equivalent of what XFCE calls workspaces. That is until I restored "sane" permissions, the view from the E17 desktop had a nearly horizontal scratch like stripe where the colors of an adjacent desktop (workspace) bled through. I was starting to think something was drastically wrong with E17 (It's not officially stable you know, Hence I like to have XFCE as a back-up) When I read your reply and said to myself, "GOOD! That's exactly what I want. Anyway I immediately restored the "sane" permissions, noted that my E17 began rendering it's desktop areas cleanly again... Then switched to my XFCE desktop to test your suggestion... (Of yeah, since I'd deleted those links I copied a few .wav files from my music folder to ~/Desktop...) The desktop has icons for those .wav files... So I popped open the run command that I've got bound to alt-F2 and typed in "xfdesktop-settings". Which got me the same settings window as (pop-up menu)->settings->desktop. Then I selected the "icons" tab and made sure "Icon type" was set to "None". (Turns out I had already done that...) But in any case I'm still getting icons. Icons on my actual desktop kind of bug me for two reasons. 1) I don't believe that I actually think in **pictures. My brain doesn't literally have to translate a picture into the proverbial "thousand words" to grok it's meaning but it feels like it. To me most icons are just meaningless splotches of color. To illustrate this let me tell you I was very frustrated when all the weather forecasting sites insisted on substituting pictorial representations for the words (clear, sunny, cloudy, stormy, rain, snow, etc...) in their 5-day forecast. because now instead of being able to grok the whole 5-day thing as a whole, I've got to mentally translate that stupid picture into it's meaning before I can grok any one days column. ( And for some reason I can't seem to process more than one of them at a time so if I really want to grok the week as a whole I open a narrow terminal window with an editor running and type the 5 one word translations under each picture, then reposition the narrow terminal window until it covers the durned iconic pictures with the freshly typed translations. Then finally I can think about which day I'd like to schedule a picnic...) Result: I HATES icons. 2) My skills with any Rodent based pointing device I've ever tried resembles a two year old trying to color inside the lines... I just don't have the right motor skills for it. Thus I almost never actualy click on an icon... I'd rather type a command. I'm not the best typist either, but at least the keys stay put. (& thank God for spellcheckers)... I'll admit that I do better with a trackball or even my laptop's *touchpad (*once I've disabled all synaptic tapping and scrolling functions that is) than with a normal mouse. But even with zero acceleration set in the mouse configuration dialog, I have a hard time using the mouse pointer to navigate sub-menus... IE using my opera bookmarks for example: If instead of positioning the pointer the heck out of the way and typing my way to my bookmark for the Beginers'Guide in the wiki, I tried to get there by clicking on bookmarks, then selecting the Linux folder which would open on the right-hand side, then (if I got this far) I'd select the Arch folder (which would now open on the left side...) The trouble is that each time I need to slide the pointer sideways to the newly opened subfolder, I have a better than 50% chance of drifting vertically outside the lines of the choice that's holding the correct subfolder open. Thus instead of scrolling down my list of Linux:Arch:wiki-bookmarks I'm just as likely to suddenly find myself scrolling down my list of Linux:Bash:command-help-bookmarks **I note however that my brain does process some info from pictures (if the resolution is high enough to make it like a real world image) So if, for example I can set a different (familiar) picture to each of my desktop areas (workspaces) Which I use to group certain tasks. I can use the background to quickly see if I'm in the workspace I think I am before I start opening applications related to that task-group. I know the kde guys don't think people should think this way any-more. But it is how I think none the less... BTW I don't suppose you know of a way to get a different background image on each XFCE workspace??? -- | --- --- | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook <o> <o> | J(tWdy)P ^ | <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>> /---\ "bla bla bla..." | \___/ "...and bla..." At least I know my mouth is running, I just can't find the off button!
