On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Ty John <ty-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:08:42 -0500 > "Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr." <jeffrey.parke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> the usb mice don't work without hal, or do they now. They didn't used >> to >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Damjan Georgievski >> <gdamjan@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know how much of HAL is needed in ArchLinux these days? >> > I'm asking because I've learned that both udev and HAL configure the >> > keymap of input devices nowdays and >> > I wonder what other former HAL features are already implemented in >> > udev. >> > >> > -- >> > damjan >> > >> > > USB mice have worked without hal for a long time. It's just hotplugging > that won't work. > Well, I recently copied /etc/group.pacnew to /etc/group which didn't have the hal and gdm groups. HAL didn't start, and when I started KDE (xinit startkde) or GDM or KDM, neither keyboard nor mouse worked. After adding hal group, it worked fine, since HAL started succesfully. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com