Listmates, After full update to kde44 and all packages from testing/community-testing, virtualbox is working again. Cool! So far so good. Thanks for the quick work getting all the packages together. All anyone with the other distros sees is the little notice at kde.org "KDE 4.4 Has Been Release". With Arch -- you get to run it too! :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com