I guess I'm new to an old discussion, so just to catch up: cdrtools: original package, active devel, possible licence probs cdr-kit: the fork, inactive devel, exists to be included in debian This seems to be a fairly straight write up of the circumstances that led to the fork. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html So *if* cdr-kit is as buggy and out of date as proposed by the cdrtools devs, then it really shouldn't be in extra. Coming to this discussion with the baggage of past arguements, I see the following outcomes: 1. Leave it alone, easiest but shipping the broken is bad 2. Move cdr-kit to AUR, next easiest but sub-optimal, no way to use pacman to get burning tools 3. Take the cdrtools devs at their word and dump cdr-kit. FWIW, I'm in favor of #3, and practically, the other bigger distros that have switched back to cdrtools are fatter targets for any legal action. Furthermore, who exactly would be doing the suing? If it's the GNU, then their goal would be to fix the licence problems, not collect money. If that happened, put it all in AUR and wash our hands. -- Kitty