A large number of packages in Ubuntu install CDs are out of date when you install it, so a long downloading time is inevitable. Things are similar when install archlinux, I would prefer to install packages as little as possible since a lot of them need to download updated versions later. This is a part of reason why I like arch's LiveCD. 2009/12/18 Allan McRae <allan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 16:45 -0700, Brendan Long wrote: >>> >>> On 12/17/2009 04:22 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 20:49 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:40:03 -0700 >>>>> Brendan Long <korin43@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Isn't the Arch installer always graphical, with a menu and stuff? >>>>>> Just because you use your keyboard instead of a mouse and it doesn't >>>>>> use X doesn't really make it any less user-friendly does it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> no. it can also do fully automated installations. >>>>> >>>>> but it's a quite recent feature so I don't blame anyone for not knowing >>>>> it. (take my previous reactions with a grain of salt and some humor ;) >>>>> >>>>> Dieter >>>>> >>>> >>>> It does fully automated? Haven't looked at the installer since >>>> installing (go figure). >>>> >>>> Ubuntu's installer goes much faster though, if the benchmark is 'to a >>>> working gnome system', especially for those of us with slow internet >>>> connections who aren't able to download half a Gb here and there at the >>>> snap of a finger. Nothing to do with the point-and-click, more about the >>>> fact that with Arch you do have to download pretty big files, and >>>> multiple times (sort of like, install xorg and related packages, >>>> wait.... configure, install alsa/sound related packages, wait... >>>> configure) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The downloading big packages step isn't any better with Ubuntu, you just >>> get to wait until after the installation is over and then install a huge >>> number of updates -- a problem that would be much worse if Ubuntu ever >>> updated anything. >> >> I don't disagree fully, but with Ubuntu you get somthing that works at a >> lower version while waiting for the download, while with Arch you get to >> wait for the download first. >> > > This is not a particularly good comparison. With Ubuntu, you download all > the software with the install CD... > > -- LI Ye M.S. Student School of Information Science and Engineering Southeast University, P.R. China liye@xxxxxxxxxx
