On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 19:14 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > > Mechanisms have existed for like 20 years before dbus to communicate > > with other programs. > > and those don't require a user space daemon. You're talking crap. Examples of other IPC frameworks are bonobo and dcop. Both launched the daemon on initial usage. On a modern GNOME desktop you still have a bonobo-activation-server running because evolution still uses it. Dbus also launches a sesion bus when it's needed, but for the system bus, things are different. You can't run a system bus as normal user, unless you install dbus as setuid root and make some code to launch the system bus on request. One thing I hate about dbus is the fact that a lot of applications crash together with shutdown of dbus. gnome-session and xfce terminal come to mind. I think gnome-session has been fixed for this, xfce terminal has a patch in our svn for it. I don't mind if xfce terminal can't open new tabs or windows when dbus goes down, but please don't kill the ones that are open. This is not actually a bug in dbus, but an issue with applications using it.
