On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyway hal is dead : >>>> http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes?highlight=%28hal%29|%28udev%29#head-75cccc4e4968dd043dcf2166dff61afd7d0d06c5 >>>> But since that functionality is definitely needed, it will have to be >>>> replaced.. somehow. >>> >>> >>> Isn't that somehow going to be device-kit? >>> If so, we won't get rid of dbus. >>> >> >> It looks like devicekit has -disk and -power but not -input. And what >> Xorg would need is the non-existing -input, so it cannot use >> devicekit. >> >> Besides it looks like some xorg devels are a bit annoyed by the big >> mess and endless renaming/overhaul of these projects : hal -> >> devicekit -power/-disk -> upower/udisk ? >> http://paste.debian.net/52931 >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit >> You might also find more information on devicekit ML. >> >> Anyway, as the xorg wiki above points out, and as Jan mentioned in >> another thread, Xorg will probably just use libudev directly on Linux >> : http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2009-December/009283.html >> >> And some further clarification : >> >> 18:41 < alanc> right now, Xorg uses HAL for two things: >> 1) an OS independent way of finding input devices and getting notified >> of hotplugs, >> 2) configuration data for those devices >> 18:42 < jcristau> >> 1) is going to become os-dependent, >> and 2) should eventually be possible through xorg.conf.d >> 18:42 < alanc> for task #1, HAL will be replaced by OS-dependent code >> - libudev on Linux, libsysevent on Solaris, whatever HAL called on >> BSD/other OS'es for those OS'es > > xorg.conf.d sounds neat. Considering how good Xorg is now at > autodetecting things, I imagine one could add small files to change > things like ServerFlags without touching anything else. > > Are there any design docs on xorg.conf.d anywhere? > Heh, I think one was being written when you wrote your mail :D Not exactly a design doc but at least that's a start. And I am very likely the one who triggered that with my stupid questions :) http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-December/003851.html And before that, it was mostly discussed on xorg-devel and at XDC. 18:51 < alanc> rnoland: we talked alot about it at XDC and there's been some mail on xorg-devel - though much more mail about xorg.conf.d than udev/config replacement And I think the patch referred is http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-November/003710.html
