On Tuesday 01 December 2009 09:11:00 and regarding: > > Maybe you also need to understand what you are doing and what the > commands mean instead of brainless copy/paste. > Xavier, I appologize if I sounded flippant in my approach to copying files back to replace the sound modules, but rest assured that I understand fully what I'm doing when I do it and if not, I read until I do. (now granted, I have misunderstood a man page or two in my days ;-) This issue is just so off-the- wall that it has caught me somewhat off guard. It seems so narrowly tailored to the sound system that it is like the last kernel install just omitted the sound modules (and I think it did -- see below) > if /lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko does > not exist, you need to go all the way up to /lib/modules to see what > exist, if anything at all. > You can also just 'find /lib/modules' to display all files in there. > I picked through the modules previously and missed what I think is the whole problem with the sound -- and it does look like the last kernel install simply failed to install the modules. I think this split screen view from konqueror provides the evidence of what is going on (sound-preoss.tar.bz2 was never extracted and installed). In the konqueror screenshot, my laptop is shown in the left vertical pane and another Arch x86_64 box is shown in the right pane. Now I do not understand why sound-preoss.tar.bz2 wasn't installed on my laptop, but it contains all the sound files: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/sound-preoss-bz2.jpg [12:11 alchemy:/lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH] # tar -tjf sound-preoss.tar.bz2 | grep intel kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0m.ko kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec-intelhdmi.ko kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko Where can I look to try and find the reason sound-preoss-bz2.jpg was left uninstalled? Can you think of a reason this could have happened during an update? The only way I update packages for the system is throught "pacman -Syu" when doing an update and that shouldn't have said don't install the sound. Not knowing more about the way Arch handles the sound-preoss.tar.bz2 file or what post processing is needed, I'm unclear how to proceed. Is it safer to attempt a reinstall of the kernel, or is it safe to just extract the sound modules and then use modprobe? > and pacman -Q kernel26 tells you whether kernel26 is installed or not. > It's probably a good idea to check that too, maybe you removed it ? > > You also need to check running kernel (uname -r) matches the one installed. > 12:08 alchemy:~/dt/kdm/themes> uname -r 2.6.31-ARCH 12:28 alchemy:~/dt/kdm/themes> pmq | grep kernel kernel-headers 2.6.31.5-1 kernel26 2.6.31.6-1 kernel26-firmware 2.6.31-1 Hmm, kernel headers is a minor version behind, but that's the latest with the current updates. That shouldn't have done it, should it? > If you want to check which files are inside kernel26 , you have to do : > pacman -Ql kernel26 > > pacman -Ql kernel26 | grep snd-hda-intel > would be much more interesting and meaningful than > pacman -Q kernel26 | grep snd-hda-intel > which was just a small typo or overlook of Flavio. > Agreed, 12:28 alchemy:~/dt/kdm/themes> pacman -Ql kernel26 | grep snd-hda-intel kernel26 /lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko It's there, it's just sitting in sound-preoss.tar.bz2 right now. How to proceed?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
